Cooker And Oven Forum

[Guest]

We're currently choosing a kitchen (we don't actually have one at the moment) and are considering stainless steel range cookers.

I'm a stickler for energy efficient products and was really saddened when I spoke to CDA about their CD9002 cooker (which looked perfect in every other way) only to discover the ovens are D and C rated. The total package price including a stainless steel splashback and matching CDA hood was £899 which is about our total limit for cooker/splashback/hood and the efficiency, or lack of it, has really disheartened me.

We're now considering Baumatic whose efficiency is better but I'm a bit concerned they are 'cheap and cheerful'.

We want 2 ovens with a sleek look and no wider than 110cm. We would like dual fuel that converts to LPG for the hob (we are out in the sticks). My father-in-law recommends a rotisserie spit but these only seem to be on the higher priced ranges.

Does anybody have any helpful advice for us? Thanks

[Dave_Conway]

Think of it this way, how much more energy will it take to dispose of 5 unreliable products that only last two years as opposed to one that lasts 10 ?

Dave.

[kwatt]

I'm still looking at the energy labels on cookers so, currently, I don't know how these ratings are calculated. If it's based on teh consultation document I read about how long it takes to heat a brick up and with what power consumption then, in my opinion, it's about as useful as a chocolate fireguard to gauge the performance of the machine as opposed to how much energy it consumes.

Most seem in the C or D class with a few in the B class and I can see no reference that actually tells the difference between them. It could be .01kW for all we know.

What I'm saying is that without a frame of reference the labelling system is, or can be I should say, extremely misleading and, where the cookers are concerned, there's no rating on performance at all so you could be buying a dog that uses no electricity. You simply don't know as it doesn't tell you anything.

Baumatic I have little experience of as they have their own engineers but I can tell you that for spares, they are an absolute nightmare to deal with.

As for pricing, you're trying to buy a huge hunk of shiny stainless steel with a decent bit of engineering involved. So the decent range cookers (IMO) start at about £2000 and go upwards to over £8000. So, again IMO, anythign under £1000 is pretty much certain to be "cheap and cheerful" and certainly not close to the build quality or performance generally found in the likes of Smeg, Mercury, Viking etc. etc. as the appliance is being produced to meet a style and price, not a quality.

Just an opinion.

K.

[mikechris77]

when I worked for Baumatic they used to do a single oven with a slight;y smaller oven which incorporated a rotiserie