Buying Advice

I think your buying guide may be out of date.
I need to buy a fully integrated dishwasher,bosch or miele, full size. What models should I look at?Thanks.

Don is the man in the know, he will be around in the morning and will doubtless give you the answers you need.

choose siemens over bosch if its fully integrated, as most of them are currrently working out at about £30-50 more than an equiv spec decent bosch, but with a 5 yr p&l warranty, instead of bosch and miele's 2...

also mind, im a bit biased - personally never liked miele dws, they are expensive, and solid, qand the old ones did go on forever, but many built since the millenium have since died, not cos they were irrepairable, but just because they were uneconomical to do so. this is because parts are also expensive. so im just not convinced its worth the initial outlay on them. apart from anything, £56 for a drainage waste hose is jawdropping... im also not convinced they actually wash as well as bosch/neff/siemens stock either.

which? are always choosing bosch or miele as best brands, so theres no difference there, and majority of best buys year on year in dw categories tend to be bosch/neff/siemens usually with the winner dependant on which offered the best value for money at the time of testing.

best thing to do is order brochures for all 4, work out which features you find particularly necessary (half load for instance if your usage is not often every day) and which features you would feel are of occasional use. make a short list of those that you are after and then hit your local independant with the homework you have done.

its also worth noting siemens and bosch have released extra tall models that allow for particulrly wide diameter plates to be adequately cleaned in the dishwasher. both top line bsh group and miele also offer 3 tier drawer systems which open up the room on the bottom basket for more place setting by using a third shallow top shelf for cutlery instead of a cutlery basket

some people love this arrangement, others who like to remove and fill the cutlery basket from the sink, because the dw is not within arms reach hate it. its all about layout of the kitchen in that respect.

hope that helps!?

I just enquired a bout a siemans dishwasher,they said the integrated ones only have a 2 year guarentee.What choicesdoes that still leave me?

Hi

The info you have recieved is correct, mid and top end Siemens freestanding machines enjoy the full 5 year warranty while the lower end and integrated models have the standard two.

I would still go with the Siemens integrated machine. if you want peace of mind for the extra three years you can always extend the manufacturers warranty for an extra premium.

HTH

Don

thanks-that was the next question I was going to ask,so siemans with extended warranty it is!

yes the free 5yr warranty must have ended a couple of weeks ago they seem to change their offers quarterly, apologies for the misinformation!

it weould be worth speaking to d&g directly about a separate non-siemens affiliated warranty extention, because then theoretically you should be receivieng a discount via cutting out siemen's referral fees

don wrote:Hi

The info you have recieved is correct, mid and top end Siemens freestanding machines enjoy the full 5 year warranty while the lower end and integrated models have the standard two.

I would still go with the Siemens integrated machine. if you want peace of mind for the extra three years you can always extend the manufacturers warranty for an extra premium.

HTH

Don

Hello I am rather curious as to why you would recommend a Siemens over a Bosch given they are made by the same people? Presumably the appliances are the same but with different badges on them

Hi

Siemens are made to a higher spec with more bells and whistles. Selected models also come with a five year warranty.

HTH

Don

don wrote:Hi

Siemens are made to a higher spec with more bells and whistles. Selected models also come with a five year warranty.

HTH

Don

and last longer( higher spec)? I can do without loads of extra bells and whistles but greater longevity would definitely make it more desirable