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Re: Hotpoint 1509 2-pole will work in 9605???

Postby ConnorM » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:00 pm

electrofix wrote:hotpoint used to supply a power system which was all the middle less the motor


Yeah, came across that the other day: http://www.4hotpoint.co.uk/cgi-bin/prod ... ath=127481

Must say I was pretty amazed they'd sell such a comprehensive 'spare'.

electrofix wrote:to answer your question the complete middle from the early machine should fit but you may not be able to swop components. although the inside of the gearbox did not change later ones have a groove for the circlip to hold the bearing. you could put the early support tube in but you would also have to put in the top bearing and the early tub support as the later one did not have the hardened ring for the thrust bearing.
i cant remember the dates everthing changed but the main one is the motor change at date code 02 unfortunatly i cant find my early tech manual only the later 96 series one

NB if an earlier machine had been fitted with a new power kit then it would be fitted with the later support tube

Dave


More great info. Would it be really cheeky to ask if you could somehow supply me with a copy of that tech manual? Spares sourcing usually comes down to knowing the correct name for a part - something I'm sure the tech manual would help with, and god knows I've got into enough trouble with iadom calling things the wrong name. "Spiralator" (gyrator) was something he took particular exception to. Can't say I blame him. :lol:

Speaking of which, here's another odd question I simply have nowhere else to ask: why have the remaining (indesit) gyrator spares (eg http://www.mytub.co.uk/product_informat ... uct=374737) got holes spiralling up them (ie a 'vented' gyrator)? I assume it has something to do with lessening the trapped air. The gyrator knob does tend to unscrew during operation and a friend of mine wrecked their lid because of this. Pressumably venting the gyrator reduces this tendency. Maybe there is also some (unintended?) centrifugal stirring going on, though doubt it as the top of the cone is sealed by a rubber 'o' ring.

Thing is would it be advised to plug these holes when using this (twin-tub intended?) gyrator in a T/l? Is there something different about twin tub seals that make them better suited to these vented gyrators than T/l seals? Indeed, was it even ever intended that the inside of the gyrator should stay dry(ish) in a T/l?

electrofix wrote:ps have a look as this on ebay

item number
110697209489

cant tell from picture if its burnt out or not also some motors are relay start not capacitor think this may be a relay one 1509 series it was later they started using a cap, but the centre shafts are all the same and unless bearing siezes and damages shaft will be ok


I'd already asked about this motor on behalf of a friend. Thanks to your advice I was able to recognise this may be a 6 wire (hence relay start) motor, so not directly useful for a 9605. HOWEVER, if, as you say, the rotors are the same for both 3 and 6 wire, I could use this and a replacement stator to build a 3 wire model for my mate. Any news on that stator you thought you might have?
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Re: Hotpoint 1509 2-pole will work in 9605???

Postby electrofix » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:53 pm

gyrator prob yes all later ones had holes and yes i presume it was to stop air being trapped and to allow any hot water from the heater to get out

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Re: Hotpoint 1509 2-pole will work in 9605???

Postby electrofix » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:57 pm

will see if i can find time to scan manual spares pages or get photostat

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Re: Hotpoint 1509 2-pole will work in 9605???

Postby ConnorM » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:46 pm

electrofix wrote:will see if i can find time to scan manual spares pages or get photostat

Dave


That would be really helpful and really appreciated.

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