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Very old junior

Postby madrat » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:19 pm

Just managed to get a 1958 Hoover junior for £5

Now the last time I even looked at one of theses I was about 5 :?

It needs a dam good clean but if anyone is interested I will post some pictures, I will probably be in need of some help while I bring it back to its former glory, so stay tuned. :rolls:
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Re: Very old junior

Postby Martin » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:41 am

Is it a 119, 1224 or 1334? :wink:

Take a look HERE while you at it! :D
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Re: Very old junior

Postby madrat » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:10 pm

Believe its a 1334.

[img]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/madrat/Image0059.jpg[/img]

First question. How it the rubber bellows supposed to attach to the unit. this has been glued very badly.

How it the cloth bag attached to the feed pipe, this was taped on.

Are the rubber bumper strips still available?

Needs new fan belt and a paint job but apart from that and sorting the other few things mentioned its fine.
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Re: Very old junior

Postby Alex » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:00 pm

1334 with the original handle grip. Circa 1962.

Only bit that was glued was the plastic tube with the foam insert (To reduce whistle) to the bellows, and it only needed a smear. The bag should be right down to the flange of the "bellows" The fixing method was to turn the bag inside out & tie the bag around the groove in the bellows with a strong twine and at the same time said bellows would be fastened to the flange. I did do some by substituting the tough thread with thin cable ties, but was not such a neat job.

Was a work of art as the zipper on the later bags had to be at the rear but slightly off-set, and zip up straight. Early bags were a roll down affair & no zip.

Probably take me longer than 20 mins to replace the armature now.

Over to Martin for some part numbers now.

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Re: Very old junior

Postby Penguin45 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:25 pm

Amazing what's still out there for these.

THIS LOT seem to cover all the bases for you.

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Re: Very old junior

Postby madrat » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:05 pm

Thought the bag was fitted wrong. Will have a go at hoover bag folding & tyeing later :lol:

At least I can still get the bumper strip :) pity its only available in gray and not pink.

Pack of 3 fan belts and 5 bags for just under a fiver off ebay.
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Re: Very old junior

Postby Higher-water-level » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:24 pm

Blimey, haven't seen one of these in donkeys years, its not in bad nick considering its age. A work mate has a Hoover Senior and Junior that he still cleans his house with, damn good machines. Who would have thought there were any parts left at all, please post a pic when you've finished, should be excellent!

Thanks for the memories Madrat. Are you going to being using it instead of your Dyson when you've restored it? :)

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Re: Very old junior

Postby madrat » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:38 pm

Don't think it could replace the dyson's I have.

I have washed the bag and re fitted it, but not sure I have the line rite, what do you think?

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Used cable ties but will replace them with string when I find some.

Next question, How do I remove the brush roller? There are some springy looking things at each end but I don't want to force them until I know.

Forgot to say it came with the adaptor device for lifting the belt and fitting the tools but unfortunately no tools :(

Racking my brain I seam to remember the junior we had when I was a kid was blue and white and I think an early 70s model, I can also remember that everyone else seamed to have hoover constellations.
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Re: Very old junior

Postby Higher-water-level » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:53 pm

Hi Madrat,

From what I can tell the bag looks right, it looks better than your original picture. I haven't seen one for a long time. Haven't seen a Constellaton for a while either, there was a remake fairly recently called the Maytag Satellite, looked similar to the original.

Can't remember anything about the belt or brush roller.

You've got me thinking, I have a 32 year old TI Jackson tumble drier in the loft, I'm now thinking of giving that a bit of TLC now, at least give it a lick of paint. I forgot I had it but youv'e got me all nostalgic now.

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Re: Very old junior

Postby madrat » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:15 pm

:lol:

Come the better weather, I will be giving it a new paint job.
(Que the wife asking what the funny paint shapes are on the patio :? )
Might have to give it space in the 1976 Sprit Alpine caravan we have at the bottom of the garden.
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Re: Very old junior

Postby Alex » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:59 pm

You have done a neat job. If you want to use the real thing rather than cable ties, go to a shoe repairers and get something tough in the way of thread.

To get the roller out, turn it upside down, flick up the lever over the belt, grab hold of the belt and simply pull with the belt at one end. Keep your head back as it may fly out.

You can unscrew each end cap and remove the bearing for greasing and to replace the brush heads. Ensure you put it back the right way round as the caps are dedicated.

The Blue/White was the 1346 made from approx 1968 until 1975.

Martin must be away, or in a pensive mood as he would have leapt into this thread.

Oh sweet memories.

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Re: Very old junior

Postby madrat » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:07 pm

I have some really Strong thinnish thread in the greenhouse, just not ventured in there since last year. Will have a go at the roller when the new belts arrive.
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Re: Very old junior

Postby Martin » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:52 pm

Alex wrote:Martin must be away, or in a pensive mood as he would have leapt into this thread.


Spookily enough Alex both options applied (you know me better than I do it seems.:wink:). :D

Ah!! The 1334......I've repaired and serviced 100's (probably 1,000's truth be known?) in my time. The first one I remember was in the workshops of what is now John Lewis in Reading way back in 1966. I was shown step by step how to take them apart, clean and grease the bearings and reassemble. So confident was I at that first lesson that when I got home I demonstrated my new-found talent in front of my mum and dad in that I took their 1334 apart and reassembled it before their very eyes, and it still worked OK! :D

At the time I recall my dad looking over my shoulder asking "are you sure what you're doing there son?"

I replied "Yes dad, I'm an engineer now!"

His reply was a little more profound, and I really didn't appreciate fully at that precise moment in time, was: ....."you've got to walk a mile in my shoes first boy!"

His statement dawned on me some while later but still gives me many fond memories of days gone by...... and it all started for me and the lifelong career I chose by simply taking a Hoover Junior 1334 apart!
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Re: Very old junior

Postby chezza » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:10 pm

Ahhhh, memories . When I left school and went straight to work for a small independant , I used to answer the phones and look after the workshop while everyone was out, but my first venture into a long and happy career involved me stripping and rebuilding these little beauties . :D
It was also responsible for the start of an equally long venture to finding tools to make a job easy - In this case, my shiny "snap on " long bladed magnetic tipped Philips screwdriver to allow access to the upper ( lower when on the bench ) threaded screws holding the motor in place .
thats another fine mess you've gotten me into !
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Re: Very old junior

Postby Alex » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:13 pm

chezza wrote:Ahhhh, memories . When I left school and went straight to work for a small independant , I used to answer the phones and look after the workshop while everyone was out, but my first venture into a long and happy career involved me stripping and rebuilding these little beauties . :D
It was also responsible for the start of an equally long venture to finding tools to make a job easy - In this case, my shiny "snap on " long bladed magnetic tipped Philips screwdriver to allow access to the upper ( lower when on the bench ) threaded screws holding the motor in place .


There was a part number in the Hoover procedures manual for the long Phillips screwdriver. Also part numbers for the 5/16 nut spinner and the box spanners to remove the bearing housing bolts on the sloping front W/Mc. Que Martin...

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